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Melchior 04-30-2005 11:51 AM

Read Sy's site Cerek

Cerek 04-30-2005 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Melchior:
Read Sy's site Cerek
<font color=plum>Any part in particular? I browsed it, but didn't find any article relating homosexuality.</font>

Illumina Drathiran'ar 04-30-2005 02:25 PM

I went to that site. Doesn't give a single piece of information worth reading. I have no idea who he is or what he's about.

Shamrock: In only a few special cases are marriages annulled.... I would imagine "He beat me" could get an annullment, whereas "We fell out of love and it's time to move on" would not. If the people who fell out of love wanted to, they could marry other people. The government would let them, but they couldn't do it in, say, a Catholic church, since their religion says people can't remarry.

Ergo, the government's marriage rules are independent of the church's.

shamrock_uk 04-30-2005 03:11 PM

Thanks for the info Illumina.

Incidentally, I appreciate your continuing involvement in this thread - I can imagine how it might be a rather frustrating experience for someone in your position. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Azred 04-30-2005 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Melchior:
Anyway I'm tired of this topic. I think this will be my last reply.
<font color = lightgreen>Well, now we know that if we simply persist you will eventually tire and give up. *tsk* *tsk* </font>

Chewbacca 04-30-2005 07:49 PM

Hey Cerek, I'll betcha a buck that the majority of posters who support legal gay coupling think they have the "Moral High Ground".

I do. I think my "pro-gay equality" stance contains the superior morals and I think I have helped explain why. To top it off, I will also claim the intellectual high ground. :D

This doesn't mean I think lessor of anyone who sees differently. I simply have not encountered compeling counter-arguments or counter-facts to the pro-gay side in my years of working on this initiative. [img]smile.gif[/img]

johnny 04-30-2005 08:06 PM

Noone wants to argue with a man who has Bob as a sig Chewie. :D

Melchior 04-30-2005 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cerek:
Since you quoted the Declaration of Independence in support of your view (even though it is NOT a law-creating document,
I'll bet the British Monarch would beg to differ with that notion.

shamrock_uk 04-30-2005 08:27 PM

You know what he means [img]tongue.gif[/img] A domestic law-making document.

As for the moral high ground, isn't this simply a legal matter? If the constitution commands we treat everyone equal under the law, then it seems like a no-brainer to me.

No need to even resort to morals [img]smile.gif[/img]

LennonCook 04-30-2005 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
But people are divorcing and remarrying all the time, which is a religious no-no.
<span style="color: lightblue">Not necesarily - some religions, eg the Catholic Church say that you can't remarry (an anullment doesn't change this, to my knowledge - it actually means the original marriage never happened), but the Church of England will let you. Infact, this was one of the disagreements that led the Church of England to break off in the first place. The Orthodox churches allow divorce (and make it easy), but view it with sadness. And non-Christian religions likely have different rules again. So it depends which religion you're talking about.

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Originally posted by Melchior:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />
Paedophile --- children can't consent

What has consent got to do with it?</font>[/QUOTE]<span style="color: lightblue">:| .
You have to sign a contract! You have to take vows that you'll love each other! Marriage, in western culture, is all about consent.


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