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Stratos 05-05-2004 09:25 AM

A criminal is risking his own life by breaking into someone else's house. Even if you ban guns, there's always a risk that the houseowner has something else up his sleeve; a knife, a sword or something similar.

Davros 05-05-2004 09:56 AM

And daddy doesn't understand it,
He always said she was good as gold

[ 05-05-2004, 10:03 AM: Message edited by: Davros ]

Donut 05-08-2004 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oblivion437:
Wouldn't a sturdy automotive vehicle be just as bad, if not worse in the hands of someone willing to cause harm?
Why don't soldiers fight with sturdy automotive vehicles instead of those shooty things? Could it be that those shooty things are more efficient?

Grojlach 05-08-2004 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Davros:
And daddy doesn't understand it,
He always said she was good as gold

And Tuesdays aren't all that great either.

Felix The Assassin 05-08-2004 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grojlach:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Davros:
And daddy doesn't understand it,
He always said she was good as gold

And Tuesdays aren't all that great either. </font>[/QUOTE]Exactly! Right back to the 'MEDIA' "Gotta have my face in the paper!"
Like the article points out however, the weapons didn't do it, the thugs did it! Along with the use of explosives. Now there's a concept, use explosives with weapons. Where are we seeing that now?

This was a tragic event. I'm not playing it down, just pointing to the root.
But to contrast, how many shots did Timothy McVeigh fire?

Davros 05-08-2004 12:13 PM

And they can see "no reasons"
Cos there are "no reasons"

Oblivion437 05-08-2004 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donut
Why don't soldiers fight with sturdy automotive vehicles instead of those shooty things? Could it be that those shooty things are more efficient?

First, we're talking about an urban situation, or a village square, some crowded area that everyone imagines when we talk about urban shootings and you get the knee-jerk "OMFGZ! Teh baby killing gunz can kill 20 peeple in a minute!" type arguments, in those situations, an automobile would be FAR more dangerous, as it's 2 tons (or more, in the case of trucks and SUVs) of steel and rubber crashing into people who crumble like silt under a shoe. While someone is in the vehicle, and they don't crash into anything too sturdy, and people are in front of them, people will continue to die, across a matter of 5 or 6 seconds, in a crowded throroughfare, a dozen could be killed, quite reasonably.

Then you move into Combat, a far more diverse and complicated SERIES of scenarios, not just one incident. Combat is not, has never been, and for the good of mankind I hope it never becomes a purely mathematical or clinical affair. The weapon you depend upon for use must be capable of use in a very broad range of scenarios and possibilities... Given that, the rifle is the best choice for the individual soldier (though some would contend in favor of light machineguns) in most situations.[/quote]

[ 05-08-2004, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Oblivion437 ]

Davros 05-08-2004 08:03 PM

And nobody's gunna go to school today
She's goin to make them stay at home.

Felix The Assassin 05-08-2004 11:52 PM

That's cos they are "trailer park girls", and they "go round the outside, round the outside".

Yorick 05-09-2004 03:49 PM

I don't like mondays


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