This was a horribly arrogant sentance of mine and I apologise. I can't believe I wrote it. Feel free to contradict anything I say Vaskez, as that is a way of sifting truth. I love hearing about historical perspectives, even when they differ.

Hi Mel. Good post BTW. That's where the Indo part of IndoEuropean comes in I guess. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

Wolfgir, Swedes Rock! I love Swedes, surely every race has commited attrocities at some stage or another, either self focussed or externalised. Australians are no exeption (to our shame http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif )

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OK I agree with most of that except the Turkish being related to Finno-Ugric. Finno-Ugric is also called Ural and is spoken only in Hungary, Finland, and small parts of Siberia accordin to the Language origins Atlas I have in front of me right now http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif Turkish is in its own language group, Turkic which it shares with some places in the former USSR, can;t be bothered to check exactly which states and can't remember exactly http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif What u are probably thinking of is the fact that because Turks occuppied Hungary for some 150 years, many Turkish words have remained in the language.

It is no wonder that history separates the Huns and Mongols, for the Mongols went east and Huns came west, as did the Magyars http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif And I am not saying Finnish and Hungarin aren't related, I just know that they don't SOUND very similar. They share their distinct pronounciation of vowels that I know, but no 2 words are similar as u would find between say, english and german.

Brock is not a Magyar name, although Tamási certainly is. I wonder if this friend of yours was born outside of Hungary?

I am surprised no one will change your Forints for u. They are now and have been for years, internationally interchangeable. Try Thomas Cook or something http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

It's funny how most ppl seem to associate my alias with the spanish name Vasquez. My alias should really be Vaskéz but most places don't allow special characters in user names so I have gotten used to Vaskez. Vaskéz means Ironhand in Hungarian, but it sounds better as Vaskez http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

Well the spanish surname is "Vázquez", but in some places, like south america, they say Vasquez and even Vasques. Thats cause in south america (and in the southern part of spain and in the canary islands) they pronounce the spanish "z" sound (its like the enlish "th" in "think") like a "s". In Andalucia (southern spain), some people also pronounce the "s" like the "z" (english th), but this one is not accepted by the spanish academy as the other phenomenon is, and usually its considered a lack of culture.

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I´m sorry Vaskez!

Didn´t mean to do that, was just typing to fast and I´m terrible with names..

I was called Wolfgirl by one dude so I understand you fretting man! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif



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No I'm thinking of the relationship between Turkic languages and Finno-Ugric languages, as the Turkic peoples and Mongol peoples are related - albeit distantly.

Brock was indeed born outside Hungary, in Australia.

No, Thomas Cook won't do the deed. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif Oh well. I also have some Magyar currency from BEFORE the Forint. Found it in a collector shop over there. If they were fake, they didn't cost much anyway, so I picked some up.


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WOLFGIRL, oops I mean WOLFGIR - no problem http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif hehe
Yorick , u wouldn't happen to have some Pengo 's or Korona 's would you? They are from before the Forint. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

Don't remember Vaskez, I'll check when I get home.

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OK, we´re even =) http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

hehe

Well I talked to a friend of mine about the Getes we were talking about earlier. It seems like they after thir defeat retreaded to the Island of Gotland (gete=gute in Swedish). From there they seemed to have moved south and disapperead or just migrated into another civilsation..

Yorick!
You´re so right about most people commiting alot of bad stuff and also (hopefully) some good stuff..
Romans are considered batsards by alot of people but they also gave the western civilisations alot of good things as an example, the stone-roads, aquaducts (probably misspelledhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif) alot of engineering and so on...

Seems like most civilisations are like a growing childe, we have to explore and try things out before we mature..

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Hi Wolfgir,

Well what have the Romans ever done for us? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif (you need to have seen Monty Python for this one)

I remember at uni several American students being very anti British, an on several occasions telling us how evil are colonial past was. Ironically without which there would be no America http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif. However my general observation is that no country ever teaches in children about the mistakes of its country, e.g. Japanese children don't get taught about Japanese atrocities in WW2, British schools don't teach about the British war crimes against Boer civillians, and there are other examples I can think of for many countries.

Can anybody out there dispute this observation?

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